‘Game of Thrones’ gave us an hour of TV which we’re still talking about! Join us for our final discussion on the season 6 finale and some fun speculation on what’s to come in season 7!
Unfortunately, there are no more episodes to speculate about. Game of Thrones completed its sixth season with a resounding show of support from critics and fans alike. Finding a seat on its own throne, as an exceptional season finale and all around successful hour and change of TV.
Season 6 FinaleMaisie Williams as Arya Stark on Game of Thrones Photo HBO Gif: gifsofgot via Tumblr
Julie: Oh, I so don’t want these discussions to end but WOW what a finale! I could literally talk about that Sam (John Bradley-West) and the library scene forever but we should talk about Arya (Maisie Williams)! Our little assassin went home in a big way! I have so many questions. How did she get there so fast? I’ve read that the timelines for characters are all kind of different but it was extremely distracting in a lot of ways. I think something the showrunners need to better streamline! But, will she find Gendry (Joe Dempsie)? Nymeria? Will she run into Brienne (Gwendoline Christie) and The Hound (Rory McCann)? Is she taking on the Lady Stoneheart role? OR will she head to Winterfell and bring tears to our eyes with another Stark reunion?
Erin: The finale was absolutely everything I could’ve wanted and more! I’ve watched it four times already, and I’ll definitely be watching a few more before the show returns next spring.
To address your point about Arya, I think she’s definitely taking on the Lady Stoneheart role. In the post-finale extras on HBO Go (which I strongly recommend everyone watch), David Benioff stated that viewers should be “very worried” for Arya due to this new transformation. It was definitely a thrill to watch her slit that troll Walder Frey’s (David Bradley) throat, but we’ve gotta remember that Arya slaughtered, carved, and baked his two sons as well. That’s an insane undertaking that definitely requires a muted soul.
So, as much as I’d love for her to head straight to Winterfell, she probably won’t. It’s very possible that Arya will run smack dab into the Brotherhood Without Banners, setting her up for some very Lady Stoneheart-like behaviors in the future. If she runs into Gendry though, all bets are off.
Julie: I’ve watched it the same! I said in my recap, it’s hard to imagine how they’ll top themselves next season but I’m not too worried. Few things could live up to the perfection that was the finale. The analysis at the end of the episode from D&D was really great! Definitely agree it completely enhances the whole experience.
I have a horrible extremely undeveloped theory that involves Arya killing Jaime, taking on his face and then killing Cersei (Lena Headey), fulfilling the other part of her prophecy involving the Valonqar. It doesn’t quite work because I don’t think the faces can change the user’s body type but the idea of Nikolaj Coster-Waldau having to act like Arya in some way would be way too fun!
Melisandre (Carice van Houten) is likely Arya’s next victim though with her heading in that direction she’ll basically walk right into that trap. Speaking of Mel, that confrontation was a long time coming, but it was such a relief!
I’m also super concerned what Littlefinger (Aidan Gillen) is scheming.
Erin: I like the idea of Arya just working her way down her list next season and not interacting with her siblings at all. If she keeps being so ninja about it, no one will even know she’s in Westeros! I’m thinking the likeliest outcome is that the BWB and the Hound will meet up with her, but that Melisandre will also find the BWB – remember, she’s tight with Berric Donadrrion (Richard Dormer) and Thoros of Myr (Paul Kaye) – and chaos will ensue.
Littlefinger greatly concerns me. The whole Sansa (Sophie Turner) thing concerns me. It’s an understatement to say that Lady Stark has been through a lot, but she’s got to see that trusting Littlefinger is a dangerous proposition at best. Perhaps her flawed judgement is a result of Stockholm Syndrome, or a bit of wanting to reclaim power after being powerless for so long. Either way, it sets Sansa up to be quite the wild card next season and I’m not too sure how I feel about that quite yet.Aidan Gillen & Sophie Turner as Petyr “Littlefinger” Baelish & Sansa Stark in Game of Thrones Photo: HBO Gif: fairytaleasoldastime via Tumblr
Julie: Yes, I am very worried about Sansa too! She looked a bit crestfallen to discover that Lyanna (Bella Ramsey) was talking about Jon (Kit Harington). It’s interesting because there was no scene between Jon and Davos (Liam Cunningham) that matched up with the one of Dany (Emilia Clarke) making Tyrion (Peter Dinklage) her hand. I realize that’s because Jon wasn’t trying to be Lord of Winterfell, but Sansa without Brienne is definitely someone to worry about. Jon has his counsel right, and now all Sansa has is Littlefinger.Diana Rigg as Lady Olenna Tyrell in Game of Thrones Photo: HBO Gif: gifsofgot via Tumblr
It’s curious what will happen because the future war for the Throne is so misguided. I wonder if Olenna (Diana Rigg) will approach Sansa. She cared for her very much, wanted to marry her off to Loras (Finn Jones). Although, I’m not sure an alliance with Dany makes the most sense but Cersei is still out for Sansa’s head so something will need to be done sooner than later. Then again, aside from Tyrion, the Dany alliance is all women (the few men like Theon (Alfie Allen) and Grey Worm (Jacob Anderson) and Varys (Conleth Hill) are a group all their own), would make sense for her to join up with them.
Erin: Ooo the more we’re talking about it, the more it seems as if Sansa has a very important role to play in the wars to come. I almost forgot about Lady Olenna’s fondness for Sansa, as well as the debt she owes to Littlefinger for staging Joffrey’s (Jack Gleeson) death. It’s possible that Littlefinger will use that alliance to his benefit and try to turn Olenna and Team Dragons against the North, but without Sansa he doesn’t have that power. If Sansa agrees to do his bidding, he’ll have a fighting chance. But in zero of those scenarios do I see Littlefinger sitting on the Throne. Why do people want that Throne so much? Yeah, it’s cool to sit on and such, but who wants all that power and responsibility? Ugh. Sounds exhausting.
Aside from the Littlefinger connection between Fire and Ice, in my mind Jorah Mormont (Iain Glen) and Theon are also going to potentially be important figures in uniting the two houses in the near future. Jorah needs help with his greyscale, a problem that will likely lead him to Davos who, totally coincidentally, is allied with House Mormont already. And Theon owes the Starks a great debt. Will those two peripheral, frequently abused characters rise in the next season of the show? Only time will tell!
Julie: Oh, I could talk about why everyone wants the Iron Throne all on it’s own! It’s fascinating! And the reasoning is so different for each person. It’s merely a tangible manifestation of power and that doesn’t even begin to skim the surface!
I so love the idea of Jorah ending up in the North. Davos doesn’t know anything about curing Greyscale if there’s a chance at a cure it’s through Sam and all those books in the Citadel! I’m not sure Sam will finish his Maester’s training, but I am sure he’ll find something that brings him back North too. Gilly (Hannah Murray) and Sam Jr. would be right at home in Winterfell and Sansa could really use a friend her age!
After my multiple rewatches, I noticed something, Dany and Cersei are much colder. Cersei is expected, she’s lost so much and there’s plenty to speak about on that but she’s not the only one being painted so emotionless. When Dany tells Tyrion she felt nothing for Daario (Michiel Huisman) who was wrecked over her leaving him both romantically and behind in Meereen. It’s quite an understated thing. Completely overshadowed by her conversation with Tyrion. It really put the two in very similar lights and one is more clearly a negative version of that. In any case, I would argue that that was more than a deliberate line just to show Dany’s pragmatism.
Interesting that you brought up Theon because I’ve been wondering what will happen if he’s on opposite sides of this war and going right up against Sansa. And there’s reason to believe that could be the case. I think that’s a very interesting struggle to watch. What happens if Theon abandons Yara (Gemma Whelan)? And what about Euron (Pilou Asbæk) in all of this?Iain Glen as Jorah Mormont in Game of Thrones Photo: HBO Gif: ragnarsstark via Tumblr
Erin: Ooo I love the idea of Jorah and Sam, although you might be forgetting that Davos might possibly have info on how to cure greyscale because of Shireen (Kerry Ingram). I believe that he was around during the time that Stannis (Stephen Dillane) was calling doctors to Dragonstone to cure the poor girl, but I could be mistaken. Jonah hanging out with anyone who could stop the spread of his greyscale would be music to my ears though because he’s one of my favorites.
Speaking of Deanerys’ coolness, I do think that there’s still some emotion under there, and it’s actually because of Jorah. She cried when she parted ways with him earlier this season so I do think that she’s got some more emotion left in her. However, the direct comparison to Cersei in this episode is certainly apt. They’re both queens who have cast their emotions aside in exchange for power which is a risky little game. But while Daenerys has Tyrion – a man who’s all about heart and emotion – Cersei doesn’t really have anyone to ground her. In fact, she’s got Jaime who seems to be turning against her given the mad Queen-like circumstances he returned home to. Like – welcome home, brother-lover! I’ve burned down the Sept and seized power for myself! How was your day? Nah. Jaime isn’t having any of that nonsense. Despite opinions to the contrary, he’s actually a pretty honorable dude.
In fact, when Tyrion comes to King’s Landing, I’m curious to see who Jaime sides with during that battle. Sure, he’s mad about Tyrion killing Tywin (Charles Dance) and all, but he’s also still got a soft spot for his lil bro. And also there will be dragons.
The only thing that could really save Cersei’s rule in King’s Landing would be a fleet of ships to welcome Team Dragon as they sail into Blackwater Bay. And Euron will have those ships soon. Lannister alliances to the side, I’m not too sure what will happen with Theon once the battle for King’s Landing is settled. Daenerys and Tyrion don’t really seem to have much use for him, but Yara does respect and trust her little brother. If he tells her that they need to align themselves with the Starks, she’d probably listen. At least hopefully because that’s totally what I want to see. #TeamIceAndFireAsked Siri about the Game of Thrones finale and this was her response
Julie: But Shireen was never actually cured. They just managed to slow the Greyscale. In the book series it’s a different character who contracts it, under the same circumstances. The show did away with Jon Connington and that whole plot and I get why but the Greyscale poses a problem for that character because it means his plans to get the “rightful” House on the throne have to be sped up. In Jorah’s case I’m not entirely sure what the function of giving him the disease is anymore. The only thing I can think of is if Dany ends up taking on the Azor Ahai role and Jorah would be the only worthy sacrifice in that situation. So basically, he’s going to stay alive long enough to die.
In some ways, that’s my greatest fear of Arya returning to Winterfell. If Jon is Azor then Arya by all accounts would be his Nissa Nissa and that just breaks my heart! Arya deserves better than that and the Jon/Arya reunion should not be tinged with so much sadness!
Cersei doesn’t think she needs anyone. In fact, her greatest character arcs have occurred with Jaime out of the way. Ah, yes Jaime is honorable and I am so happy that we have potentially entered that point in his arc. Took the show long enough! I don’t really think Jaime is so mad about Tywin. Cersei was angrier. Tywin mistreated all of his children but in comparison Jaime was the golden child. Despite knowing that I don’t think there was much love between father and son. Tyrion’s betrayal was definitely a shock but in the end I think Jaime will be relieved to see his little brother again. Any animosity between the two will likely be quickly forgotten, unless Jaime is still fraternizing with Cersei at that point. I’d personally like to see Jaime wrestle with what to do about Cersei instead. It’ll be interesting to watch their relationship finally evolve because she doesn’t need him anymore and the look on Jaime’s face said he doesn’t want her.
I have to say, I know it’s short-lived but I am behind Queen Cersei all the way! I mean, this is a horrible idea and she needs to be dealt with sooner than later, but while she’s there I am excited to see the havoc she’ll wreck!
Ooo! I did not think of Euron siding with Cersei. I love that! The only reason Theon might find himself between a rock and a hard place with Yara and Sansa is that Dany promised his sister the Iron Island’s independence. She’s not just going to let that go because Theon feels like he owes a debt. It stands to reason that if season 6 was about going home then we can certainly except some kind of focus on family dynamics in season 7.
Thank you for joining us for this season of Game of Thrones. We hope you’ve enjoyed these discussions! It’s been a lot of fun hearing all your theories and sharing our own before each episode.
The hiatus is long and full of rumors!
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